Ep 481: Common Scams In Real Estate Fraud/ Scam With The Hivemind

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bad boy being tough is like of strength

in business yeah but it's actually a

very powerful weakness yeah right easily

exploited yeah oh this

The vulnerability of appearing tough in business is identified as a powerful weakness that can be easily exploited.

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is this is a great conversation we never

been here before we have never been here

The speakers acknowledge entering a new area of discussion they have never explored before, showing excitement for the novel conversation.

before okay okay okay okay I know

exactly where you're going with this

this conversation okay so we do this

like 12 hours a

day all right all right so a lot of

people a lot of people are afraid of

being scammed and um especially in real

The topic shifts to the common fear among people, especially in real estate, of being scammed, highlighting concerns about trust and security in the industry.

estate everybody's really defensive like

oh I'm going to protect my $20,000 fee

and I'm not going to I'm not going to

collaborate with any I need to send I

need to send you something to sign I

need an NDA n like anybody anybody sends

us an NDA we automatically ignore them

like yeah we'll be sure to check this

deal out yeah thank you this girl this

girl sent me an NBA on a l and I was I

was going to sign it I was going to read

it and I just never got around to it it

was like day after day after day weeks

later I'm like man damn hold damn hold

damn forget it like I don't want the

deal well did you sign the paperwork no

but I didn't want to stop to do it so

automatically like when people send me

the NDA I'm like man oh man I don't want

to read it I don't want to go through

the legal liability I don't want to know

what it's about like you're just giving

me a legal problem now that could get me

in legal trouble like just keep the

whole deal keep the NDA figure it out

don't help

me don't don't help me and I won't help

you because you're giving me a legal

problem and you want me to like legally

analyze it in a few minutes and I'm like

damn even if it's a 30-minute commitment

like I don't want to dedicate 30 minutes

to something and then all of a sudden

you send me a deal that's on the MLS

plus 10% like dang that was a waste of

time that was a that was very terrifying

for you to do that to my 30 minutes if

he could anyway to pay them back I'd

appreciate it but have a nice day anyway

so it it it comes to the point where you

uh if you act if you act in abundance

and you have abundance mentality you

give opport Unity to people to steal

from you MH because most people when

they get when they have the opportunity

to do it they're going to do it oh we're

going to use that 350,000 like kind of

yeah like a dang now we're in court for

three years like oh man I wish you would

have just told me ahead of time that you

were going to steal the 350,000 we're

going to do more deals with you oh well

and then all of a sudden now like ah

damn okay keep the 350,000 I got to go

buy a $2 million rentch real quick so

it's like that was a big suicide like

a it was very confusing to say the least

and like this isn't the first time it's

happened we had another guy he stole he

got like $20,000 we sent him a lead he

made money on it didn't send any money

our way so it's just like another thing

like so look here's here's the most

dumbest thing you ever heard in real

estate somebody sends me a text message

and I'm like hey this is probably a deal

and I look at I'm like Dam this is

probably a deal but I don't want to

invest an hour or two into the deal

right but it's 100% chance of it going

to be a deal so I rot through my we s

roll through the roll of deck and we

send it to a friend we I go through the

forgeted decks and I send it to just the

first person person that comes to mind

that's been contributing and helping us

cuz I'm like okay cool that guy probably

needs $10,000 he can use the money so I

send the whole entire deal 20,000 spread

and it's like I hope he kicks me 10 and

I hope he keeps 10 but then like he

makes the whole 20 and just doesn't call

him more like oo damn okay he probably

needed it pretty bad I'm still not mad

but next time I get a deal that guy's

not the first in the list like I'm not

calling and not for no bad reason I'm

not mad I'll send you another I'll send

you another Gran ATO to turn off your

lights or whatever but uh it's like you

lose the opportunity for the next up and

then I think that's where the value is

and that's what people are not paying

attention to and it's it's the it's the

it's the cookies in the cookie jar ooh

those cookies look nice I'm going stick

my hand in it and I'm going to take the

cookies but then you realize you're

never going to get cookies

again now they're going to put them on

top of the fridge it's a cold dark

moment so I think that's something that

uh people I think Daniel and myself I

don't know if we've gone far I know

people do way better than us and they

got more shine and clout and all this

but

I think we're having fun it's fun you

know we're making a little bit of impact

in somebody's life

somewhere and um that's a f we're having

a lot of we're doing we're make the

business is going pretty cool and then

we're we're able to practice daily uh

manufactured happiness if you haven't

seen a man manufactured happiness video

go to YouTube and type in uh hive mind

Daniel Anthony uh man what's it called

manufactured it's called that yeah oh oh

damn manufactured happiness and um it's

cool man it's just like hey if you do I

just give him like 4 seconds on it yeah

go four

seconds so here here's my take on it

maybe I'm wrong right I just think a lot

but let's say that you're going to want

to be um angry or or you want to make

somebody angry you're going to have this

argument with this person whatever story

you formulated in your mind the way that

this person wronged you now you're going

to show them how angry you are in return

so the first thing you have to do step

one is you make yourself very very angry

right so now you go from being in a good

mood a normal mood to very very angry

you're like I'm so when I see him oh

it's going down and then when you see

that person you make a bunch and you're

like hey you want some of this and the

guy's like yeah I have some boom now

you're both pissed but it also works in

the opposite direction right so if

you're not feeling so amazing you you

you make fake happiness in your body you

find a way to bring up your mood diet

exercise prayer meditation Church

something and then as you're starting to

make yourself feel more happy then you

can share it with the person next to you

so now Daniel's laughing he's in a good

mood we're talking [ __ ] like things just

we're just clicking and it's a good vibe

so um uh it's something that we get to

practice on The Daily with this business

yeah it's fun it's fun stuff that was my

thesis let's let's jump back let's jump

back to uh people think they got the one

up on you I think we heard a story

recently of people people think they

have the upper hand somebody's always

watching and always comes back and

always comes light and um you may not

like it when it comes to light but

somebody somebody always knows yeah even

if you think you got away with it

somebody always knows and then stuff's

on paper now everything has a digital

record so if you do if you do if you

cheat somebody out of a deal if you

think you beat them and you got the

better percentage by being slick or

smart that's on paper now it's on the

emails it's on the internet so it's a

weird decision oh let's talk about the

one story where somebody did somebody

wrong in the community and then like oh

why'd you block

me I just go all the way yeah yeah okay

all right I me we don't have to drop

names CU so we're at hbhs who they are

if they're watching us you know who you

are uh and we were at hbhs event Charles

and Mike invited us to speak and there

was like 500 people there was a badass

event one of the best biggest events

I've ever been to in my life and um

somebody had done somebody wrong in the

Hy mind it was a deal that was going

south the guy um finds a way to capture

the whole deal and cut everybody else's

profit down to nothing and he did the

gun to the Head approach like hey take

it or leave it or get out of the deal

I know there's probably a lot of reasons

that that might happen like hey the

people stopped participating they didn't

deliver on what they said they tried to

steal the L's money I don't know what

the details are but if you're going to

gun to approach gun to the Head approach

like four or five hive mind members all

at the same time I kind of don't care

what the reason is and I'll tell you why

because if I got into a situation where

hey man shoot I'm about to lose

$100,000 but four of my hive mind

friends who I know love and Trust are

going to be be put in a very bad

position yeah but no they effed up they

effed up I want my

$100,000 even though they're all going

to take a negtive

8,000 all right all right you're out

because I would never do that to one of

my friends never not even for a million

not even for 10 million so if you have

if you put a price tag on treating me

and my friends like that and my wife and

friends you're out yeah and there's no I

don't and he was like but you don't did

you hear my side no thank God that those

words didn't fall on my

ears thank God thank you man thank you

man and I told him to I'm never

unblocking you because I already know

that person's heart now and I'm not

saying I'm the most Saint to Saints of

the ever Saint is that ever sainted but

you don't do that to people yeah not to

people that you think are your friends

yeah so what what goes WR comes around

do do do the right things when you're

supposed to and um it goes a long way

it's such a powerful it sounds like well

they're preaching happiness they're like

you know whatever this makes you money

this is how you make money be cool be

nice to people over time and distance do

the right thing overpay overpay time

overpay money buy people stuff rent buy

strangers stuff fix them up um help a

stranger move a car out of the way every

time somebody's like how's Texas how's

how are the people in Texas effing

amazing you're at a four-way

intersection your freaking gilapy breaks

down and all of a sudden like 12 people

get out of their car push you into the

gas station you don't flag nobody down

you don't honk or nothing there's no

secret code people just jump out move

you out of the way everybody goes about

their business yeah I like wow that

makes me proud to be uh from Texas and

San Antonio so I I think I think if you

if you if you take care of the Cara

effect you do good people do good for

you and and and so I want some I want to

point something out because me and

Daniel use words like Karma and all that

stuff I'm religious I'm Catholic I'm

proud of it I'm happy I go to church

three times a month but uh times a month

I got to miss something sooner or later

broo I'm a human man that's a moral sin

um but like you know we're just human

you know we're all trying to do the

right thing yeah yeah it's good stuff I

think it's funny I don't know but if if

you think $10,000 a lot of money take it

I mean but I would rather that person

take the 10,000 and now we're not

friends no

more the 10,000 is your reward for

telling me who you are yep thank you I

got a lot of important things to do this

afternoon so the money is if when people

start counting pen we call it counting

pennies um tripping over pennies yeah

you know what you can have everything

like imagine you're playing Monopoly and

uh if things are going fantastic and

they're going in your favor this day

right and then everybody else on things

like getting violently mad like they

want to hit you like damn I'll just keep

everything in them out of here right

yeah so if somebody's getting weird

about uh money like that then um not

that we don't need it right cuz we need

it opinion we can get we have a lot of

friends and family that that count on us

and we want to do some nonprofits and

Charities but uh it's a weird way to be

with your with what you would call your

friends or your business partners so I

blocked man I blocked more people last

year than I probably blocked in my

entire life on Facebook and their phone

numbers and I feel a lot more clear I

feel a lot more like happy I feel a lot

more um

calm so uh sometimes you got to I just

mute them I want them to see what I'm

doing I just kind of like don't want to

ever see them again like I'm that mad I

don't know if that's toxic I don't know

I don't know what it is but it's like if

I could never see you again that would

make me feel 01 more fulfilled for for

everybody here what what what's really

amazing about this business is that

there's billions of people and I just

don't have to communicate with

you that's what I'm saying like look

look we love everybody we help everybody

so we give money to people we don't even

know on the damn screen on the stage

like hey this girl's like I don't have

enough money for landglide I'm like send

her 10 bucks I don't even know who she

is I don't know her first and last name

I don't know nothing here's 10 bucks get

landglide and then I can help you and

then we had a guy he's like I I think I

got a deal run ghost ads I don't have

any money I send you 15 bucks right now

you want

money what's the question so it's like

yeah if people are willing to put in the

work then we're going to try to make

help them make it happen yeah I have a

realtor right now I gave him ad spend to

help me sell some property you know what

I mean like it's because if not

what if we had to do that ourselves we

got we pay for it we get the phone calls

like ah you're listing it you talk to

those people so here here's a thousand

bucks you know let me know when it runs

out so I can fill it up again um and and

I would trust that that guy has been

with us for a long time and he's always

provided value and he's never called me

and said hey what am I getting he just

works and works and works and so like I

just feel guilty like here's some leads

here here's some listings on something

that I could just sell by myself yeah

but we take care of our people man and

it's fun U I feel very trusting I feel

calm like nobody's going to steal a deal

from me so it's a pretty cool heads

space to be that was manufacturing

happiness we talk about how when you

create happiness for yourself you can

then share it with others the same way

that if you wanted to create anger for

yourself then share it with others

that's two two opposite sides of the

spectrum so it's a CO

Ep 481: Common Scams In Real Estate Fraud/ Scam With The Hivemind

Daniel Esteban Martinez

Anthony Gaona